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Title: Animals and Prizes (3/?)
Author: Alsike
Fandom: Victorious
Pairing: Jade West/Tori Vega
Rating: PG-13 (15? Mention of knotting, but nothing explicit)

Summary: Tori Vega is starting an exciting new school, Hollywood Arts, but she has a secret. She's a female alpha, naturally dominant and aggressive.  If anyone finds out, her life will hardly be worth living. In addition, Alphas sense when an omega goes into heat, but that doesn't mean she wants an omega - especially not a girl omega. Biology isn't destiny, right? Jori

Warnings: This is a Knotting world - because knotting is hilarious and kind of gross - so be prepared.  BUT PG-13 (for now)  And... maybe a touch of gender politics.

Animals and Prizes at FFN

Date: 2012-12-09 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kith-koby.livejournal.com
So sorry for taking so long, but... yeah, military job does not leave one nearly as much time as he wishes. Also, since it is now Hanukkah, I have to spend more time visiting family in the evening and stuff. But, rest assured I am following and will try to comment when I have time.

So, this is very interesting. I know nothing of the show, and frankly, without the whole alpha/omgea issues it seems kind of boring. But when you put that stuff in, and add Jori... well, it turns out brilliant.

I ahve to say I still think the world is pretty boring, though. The sections without Jori or when they're talking about gender and alpha/omega issues kind of bore me, like filler material because the world cannot solely revolve around Jori and those issues.

Anyway, when you do hit those issues, you hit them spot on. I loved all the stuff about omegas, betas and alphas, thought I'm not sure I understand yet why the stereotypes are what they are and why female alphas are so despised. You write that's it's an invitation to gang-rape, and that really makes me wonder about all this. I mean, we saw in Tori's report that the world seems rather normal now. But then there are all the implications of Alphas being able to rape omegas at will and come out innocent, and alphas practically owning omegas, and so forth. It's all very confusing - would you mind explaining a bit more? I like how you've handled it so far, I just don't understand the issues at hand because, well, I don't understand the culture. And the whole 'knotting' thing - what does that even mean? Is it like finding your optimal mate? Does it entail a physical reaction of actual knotting? Does that mean all female alphas have dicks? I'm very confused.

In any case, though, obviously the main focus is on the relationship, and I love how amazingly you write it, with Tori so clueless and despite being the Alpha, not acting like it at all, and Jade being the omega but acting a lot more like the alpha. It;s the kind of interaction and relationship I love to see you write, where there is a constant power exchange and it is unequal, and the relationship will only become stable if it equals. I really enjoy it, especially Tori's confusion and Jade's anger and determination. I hope to see more of it soon.

Date: 2012-12-10 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nike-ravus.livejournal.com
No worries! Any comment is a good comment! (Except for the one I recieved last night of the 'this chapter was boring' type. That is not a good comment.)

I do have a taste for very peculiar television shows. And really, the show runs on humor - a very stagey improv kind of humor - which is really hard to recreate in words. One cannot say there is depth or complexity to the characters and world. :) It's tough to write because it's so.... not epic.

I'm hoping the world will eventually become clear, but the more I think about it, the more complex it seems to get. Essentially they exist at a time where omegas are no longer supposed to be used as chattel, but the mindset and the biological imperative mean that it doesn't always work like that. I have a LOT more to say, but most of it is actually going in the fic, so you'll have to wait.

Female alphas are externally physically identical to beta females, so a lot of people assume that they don't actually exist. Anyone who claims to be a female alpha is assumed to be lying, and to test it there will probably be a fight.

Male alphas have knots - in the canine sense. They believe that this makes them special.

I'm glad the relationship is coming across well! It is all about the power dynamic and the struggle, and hopefully it will work out. I'm really glad you're reading!

Date: 2012-12-10 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kith-koby.livejournal.com
Ah, I understand. That makes your ability to write it well all the more powerful. Still, I have no doubt you can make the relationship between Jade and Tori epic.

Oh, so there's biological imperative as well. Well, if omegas go into heat, I can see where that would reduce their value in the eyes of society. It's just so odd, you know? That Jade is the exception to the rule, that most omegas accept their nature and just go along with it. Of course, one could say it's the same for Tori, but it's not. Because if Tori accepts her true nature, her situation could be worse, since most don't believe in it. I really want to see more of this, so it's good to know it'll be in the fic.

So wait. Can Female Alphas impregnate Omegas? Or is it only males who have the ability to impregnate in this world? Since both genders can get pregnant based on their position, I'd have thought there'd be some kind of consistency to it...

The relationship is really the best part of the fic. I'm actually surprised at Tori's parents for not correcting her mistake, but I suppose they're respecting Jade's choice. It's just odd - Tori is nice, as Jade noted, and very much does not act like an Alpha. If they had told her the truth, she probably would have gone to Jade and swear never to mate with her unless it was what Jade wanted. They managed to form a truce anyway, but it remains a question. Of course, there's also the question of why Jade doesn't see that Tori is modern, and if they did mate, she wouldn't be the inferior in the relationship. Indeed, she could be the superior. I want to hear more of their thoughts on this.

Lastly, forgive me if I am being annoying, but are there plans for any other fic sometime soon?

Date: 2012-12-11 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nike-ravus.livejournal.com
Well, perhaps epic, perhaps just overly drawn out. :)

Jade isn't an exception really. Her situation is slightly different from other omegas. But there's a reason that there's an omega rights movement at all. More will be explained.

Oh no, it's consistent. Examine the comments above. It may not be relevant to this story, but it is all sorted out.

Tori's parents are really 'hands off' style parents. It makes sense to them currently, though they may regret it in the future.

Oh man, other fic? My plans for winter break are to rewrite novel 1, finish novel 2, write A-paper 1, outline A-paper 2, so I'm going to say no. This one came as much a surprise to me as anyone, and if I hadn't had two days of student meetings with nothing to do in the interim periods I would probably have never written this one either. Check back next semester. And yet, as is clear, one really never knows.

Date: 2012-12-12 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kith-koby.livejournal.com
Oh, thanks, that all makes a lot more sense now. Just... how? It is some kind of sperm that is unique to them or something?

I don't know about Tori's parents. They have a point. Especially as the main problem is Jade's attitude, and the next problem is that Tori herself needs to become more of an Alpha, more of an equal. They definitely can't fix the first, and they can only tell Tori she should change. But it'll be far more powerful and better if she does it herself, so... yeah. I think their main fault is in not supplying proper context and information for the girls.

Ah, I though so. Well, best of luck with those... and I shall remain patient and hoping.

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